The Reverend Charles Drayton Thomas Speaks from Spirit about People Creating Realities

Recordings source: The Leslie Flint Foundation

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The Reverend Charles Drayton Thomas (1867-1953) was a Methodist minister in England who devoted a major portion of his life to systematic psychic study. He was a prominent member of the British Society for Psychical Research. He had known Leslie Flint in life and tested him rigorously by closing his lips with elastoplast, tying his hands to the arms of his chair, and tying his head so it couldn’t move. He discovered that Leslie Flint was not producing the voices.

After his death, in 1970, Drayton Thomas came through in a Leslie Flint séance describing the work he was doing in the afterlife. The afterlife is the realm of thought, he explains. In this excerpt from a séance, Rev. Thomas explains that in the life after this life, a person lives on a level that matches his or her level of spirituality. The person’s thoughts provide what he or she needs in that level, and other souls with similar levels of thought live in the same sphere. They have a normal, everyday life that fits the thoughts they hold. Their thoughts create the shared reality.


And on these spheres are millions of souls that dwell. Some have been there possibly as you term time for centuries, and then time being as it were a big illusion. They’re not conscious, many of these people, indeed aren’t aware that time has elapsed. Some of them still live in past memory and past sort. And they still create for themselves surroundings and conditions which would be comparable perhaps to conditions and places upon Earth centuries ago. There are certain places or spheres where you might go to and I’ve been to them where you might be going back into the dim Dark Ages. But of course these are conditions of life created by individuals who were very strong characters in their way and perhaps very much held down by religious belief and persuasion, who had very strong, firm, fixed views and invariably thought themselves perfectly expert thought their attitude of mind was the right one and everyone else’s was the wrong one. And I regret to say, there are some very dark spheres where certain types of individuals remain and so they presumably will remain until they start to search to some extent within themselves and are helped by souls that go to them from other spheres to try to bring some light and illumination into the darkness of their minds in this world or world or aspect of world or sphere or condition, call it what you will, in which they find themselves is merely the reflection of themselves. It has no real foundation it has no basis in reality. These are thought-created worlds from within oneself which are very real to the inhabitants. But of course to people like myself and others who go to them, there’s no reality at all. It is all a state of illusion.

Listen to the entire séance recording

You can listen to the entire séance describing the levels of being, Karma, and the effects of chemicals on the environment. The séance begins with Sylvia Pankhurst (1882-1960) coming through briefly. Reverend Thomas comes through with some disparaging remarks about Sylvia Pankhurst, then begins his own message. A transcript follows the audio control.

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