Alfred Higgins Describes Getting Messages through to People from the Afterlife

A man named Alfred Higgins, now in the life after this life, came through in a Leslie Flint session. He explained that he was a painter and decorator who fell from a ladder at work and succumbed to his injuries. In this recording, you will hear Betty Greene, a sitter in the room with Leslie Flint. Alfred Higgins speaks through the ectoplasmic voice box on Flint’s left shoulder.

Clip 1: Higgins tries to communicate with his wife

This clip begins with Higgins standing with a friend in spirit in the kitchen of Higgins’ house in Earth School. His wife is there, but she can’t see the two of them. He will try to communicate with her. You will see the effort he must go through and the results.

A transcript follows the audio controls.

Alfred Higgins:

The next thing I knew I was standing in our kitchen and I was watching my wife. She was standing over the sink peeling some potatoes and I thought, “Well, this is funny.” So I thought, “Well I don’t know, I wonder if she knows I’m here,” and I called her name. She didn’t say nothing. She didn’t hear me, obviously.

So my friend says, “She won’t hear you, you know.” So I says, “Well I don’t know. What could I do?”

So he says, “There’s nothing you could do. But she may sense your presence. You never know. Let’s just wait a little while.”

So I just stood there and I concentrated.

He says to me, “Concentrate your thought on her. Just think hard, you know. Think as hard as you can. Think her name.”

And I did and all of a sudden she stood up and she dropped down the… dropped down the knife and the potato she was peeling and she looked round. Looked proper bewildered, she looked. She looked almost scared and I felt rather sorry in a way that I’d scared her, because I realized it must have been me trying to get at her, you know. Anyway, oh, she just flew out of that kitchen. She opened the door and then she sort of shut it again and then she sat down and then she put her head on the table and started to cry. And I felt awful about this. I thought, “Oh dear, now this is terrible.”

And he says to me, “Don’t worry. She senses. She feels. She knows in herself. She doesn’t understand yet, but she knows in herself that you’re near her.”

So I says, “Well, if I’m going to make her miserable like this, there’s not much point, is there?”

So he says, “Don’t let that worry you. This often happens to people. They don’t know with any certainty. They’ve never been told about life after death. They’ve never been told about the possibility of communication and all that sort of thing. But she’ll come … she senses … she feels and she in herself, deep down inside, she knows.”

Clip 2: Higgins works at getting through to his friends at a pub

In the clip that follows, Higgins has his friend take him to a pub. There he tries to communicate with the people in the pub. It begins with Higgins’ friend taking him to the pub by just intending to be there.

A transcript follows the audio controls.

Alfred Higgins:

So I thought, “Well, this is alright.” So he put his hand out towards me. I thought, “Oh well, I suppose I put my hand in his again,” see, so I did. The next thing I knew I was standing in the bar of this pub, see, and there were three of my old mates there. I went and stood up beside one and I remembered what I’d been told to do about the wife – to concentrate, think hard, you see. And he’d got this mug of beer up to his mouth and I was thinking to myself his name, see, and all of a sudden he plonked that down on the counter, you know. And he looked quite bewildered. He looked round, and then he said to his mates, my other two friends, he says, “That’s funny. I felt sure I heard… I felt sure I heard …”

So the others said, “Heard what?”

So he says, “Didn’t you hear nothing?”

And they said, ”No, we didn’t hear nothing.”

And I thought “Well I’ve made him…”… He thought, I suppose, he was making a bit of a fool of himself.

So he says, “Oh. It’s nothing.”

So they sort of laughed and said, “What’s up with you mate? You got the jitters?” You know, and they had a bit of a lark about it.

But he heard me alright. But it was done by my thoughts. One of the first things I realized was that you don’t have to talk to be heard. You’ve got to concentrate hard. It’s a matter of thinking all the time that you want to get into touch or you want to do something, and then it’s possible. You just can’t do it by sort of speaking out in the old way, you know. It was my first sort of lesson in this sort of thing.

Clip 3: Higgins tries to get a message to his wife through a medium

In the clip that follows, Higgins describes what happens when he tries to get a message through to a medium doing platform readings at a Spiritualist church.

Alfred Higgins:

Anyway, later on I was taken to a church – a spiritualist church. And I thought to myself, “Well, if I could only get a message over to my wife,” see, but she never went to those sort of things.

So… of course, by this time I’d got on quite a bit and my friend – this gentleman I’ve been telling you about – I realized and knew a lot more about him after a time. I realized that he was a leader of a vast group of people over here and he was a teacher and I learnt a great deal at the time, you know, from him, like. And later on he did say to me, “The only way, of course, that you can ever hope to get into touch with anyone connected with yourself on Earth is to go to a spiritualist church.”

I said to him, “Well, I’ve heard all about spiritualist churches and all that sort of thing but I’ve never ever been to one. I think the missus did go to one, years ago, but she wasn’t that keen about it, you know, and I never encouraged it.”

Anyway, I thought, “Well, that’s one way. So the obvious thing to do is to go to a spiritualist church.” So I tripped off to a spiritualist church which is not so far from where we used to be and, of course, my missus wasn’t there. And I went several times and she wasn’t there. So I thought, “Well the thing is to try and impress her to go to a spiritualist church.”

So I started visiting the missus again and started to impress her to go to a church. This must have been, oh, about 18 months after I’d conked out, you know, and come over here, like, you see. So anyway, after a time, I got the idea into her head to visit a Spiritualist church. Anyway, she wouldn’t go on her own. She got her sister Floss to go with her, see.

So, one night I was at the church. I knew I’d got her to decide to go because I’d been working all day on her. In fact, I had been working on her several days before. Anyway, she did go on this particular occasion with Floss. And they were sitting at the back, and a medium was on the platform. I took one look at her and I thought, “Oh blimey, it would be my luck to get one like this.” She didn’t strike me as being much cop, you know. I’d seen them good and bad you know, and this one seemed a bit on the holy, holy side and she talked about things which was alright for them that likes it, but she wasn’t so hot on the evidence, and she didn’t seem to be able to describe very well.

So I thought, “Have a go Joe,” you know.

Anyway, when she started to give the old messages, I thought, “Well, I’ve got to get in here somehow,” you know. I thought, “I’ll have to do something.” So I concentrated like mad on her, you know, and eventually she picked it up.

Well, this ‘ere medium, she wasn’t so hot. But anyway, she did pick me up. She got certain things that I was trying to get to her. I got her to talk about… She kept getting a ladder. Of course, she got it all bugger… mixed up (excuse me). But she got it mixed up, you know.

She says, “I don’t know, my dear, if you’re going to have a bit of luck, but I see a ladder with you.” And I thought, “For crying out loud, this is getting on fine, this is!”

Anyway, of course, the missus did realize that after a while I’d had this accident on a ladder. So my missus says, “Well, I do place the business of the ladder.”

And, of course, the medium got it all confused. She says, “I think as how there’s something going to be very good for you, my dear. I see you rising, going up this ladder towards success.”

Of course this wasn’t what I was telling the damn silly medium (with all due respect), but it’s her interpretation, you see. I thought, “Oh blimey!”

Anyway, eventually I was able to get a few bits over and then I was able to get me name through. That was an ‘ard bit: getting my Christian name through, see. Oh, and then my wife says, “I think I understand all this very well.” And then she says – of course I could have kicked my wife afterwards – because she says, “My husband was killed on a ladder, and his name was Alf.”

I thought, “Well, I did get that over after a style,” but the medium mucked it up a bit. Still, anyway, so why worry.

Anyway, and then I thought, “Well what can I say that’ll really clinch it?” see. So I thought to myself, “Now I’ve got to get something real hot here,” you know.

So I says, at least I concentrated on the medium to say, I says “I says” but actually when I’m trying to get through it’s as if you’re saying it through the medium but you’re thinking it, see. It’s all very difficult.

So I says, I impressed the medium to say, “That ring that you have on, that is not the ring, not the same ring,” you see. Now this didn’t seem to make no sense to anyone, I suppose, but it had a great deal of significance to my missus, because what actually happened here was my wife lost her wedding ring and she tried not to let me know she’d lost it knowing that I’d be upset about it, so she’d gone and bought herself another one which was to all intents and purposes identical, you see. So I thought, well I knew about this, you see because I’d learnt that since I’d been over. That may sound odd to you, but it was in my wife’s mind about this, that she had this wedding ring, new wedding ring, without my knowledge when on Earth. But I knew, of course… since I’ve been over here, like, and I’ve been in touch with my wife, there’s not much that I didn’t know that went on. So I thought, “Well, that’ll shake her,” you know. So I thought and said about the wedding ring, you see, about not the original wedding ring and about buying a new one, you see. Of course, she went quite white, but she says, “Well, how could my husband know that? I’d never told him, I’d kept it from him,” and all that, you see.

So, of course, the medium preened herself – you know how they do, some of them. “Well, of course,” she says, “you know it’s proof from your husband, isn’t it my dear, you see?” You know. She went all “la la.” She was getting it over posh, you see. She felt good that night. Of course, I was very glad for her sake, too, to give her a bit of a kick, you know. Some of these mediums, they get a bit down in the dumps if they get a bad start at a meeting. They need something to buck them up and I was glad I was able to do it. And my wife was getting a little bit through too, you know. It was nice for everybody. I was really happy about that.

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